Talk:Chun-Li

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Signature Move Correction

Her intro stated "Her signature move is the Hyakuretsu Kyaku (百裂脚, lit. Hundred Rending Kicks), commonly known as the Lightning Kick or Spinning Bird Kick" I removed the ref to Spinning Bird Kick as this is a seperate move not another name for her 'signature move'.

Nationality

Chun-Li is either Chinese or Cantonese. --PJ Pete

I think it'll be safer to just assume that she is Chinese rather than infer she is Cantonese, since she speaks the Mandarin dialect in Street Fighter III ["Zhu Ni Hao Yun (good luck)" and "Xie Xie (thank you)"].

Voice actor

In Super Street Fighter 2 Lynn Eve Harris played Chun Li and other voices on this version and in other Street Fighter arcade games.

"First female playable character in a fighting game"

The article identifies Chun-Li as the first playable female fighting game character. While this claim is properly sourced, I know of at least five fighting games with playable female characters before Street Fighter II but after your discussions I think Chun LI is the first playable female fighting game character but these games are just Beat 'em up or not proper one-on-one fighting games:

Onna Sansirou - Typhoon Gal: a 1985 arcade fighter by Taito were you play as a girl named Yuki.
Galactic Warriors: One of the three playable characters is a female mech named Gaea.
Yie Ar Kung-Fu II: Has a female character named Lan-Fang, who is playable in the two-player mode.
Double Dragon: In the 1988 Nintendo Entertainment System port, you can play as the character Linda Lash in the one-on-one two-player mode, which functions as a fighting game.
Golden Axe: In the Sega Mega Drive port there is a two-player one-on-one duel mode which functions as a fighting game. You play as the three characters from the main game, including the amazon Tyris Flare.

These are just the ones that I know of, there may be more. Anyway, my point is not to discredit Chun-Li's impact on fighting games: she is still the first well-known and prominent female fighting game character, but referring to as the first playable one is entirely accurate. Problem is, many sources do credit her as the first, and while I can find sources that the games listed above have playable female characters but however they are all Beat'em up, I can't find any reliable ones that credit any game other than Street Fighter II as being first with it. Any suggestions on how to go about this? Ding Chavez (talk) 13:11, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Female mech"? :) Those are beat'em-ups, the Golden Axe fighting game was released only in 1994. --Niemti (talk) 16:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's exactly as stupid as it sounds: a mecha shaped like a woman, complete with breast projectiles (ugh...). True, Double Dragon and Golden Axe are beat'em-ups, but I was talking about two specific modes in each of them where you face the second player in one-on-one combat in a way that is extremely similar to fighting games. Borderline cases, sure. I mostly brought them up for completeness' sake. Onna Sansirou and Yie Ar Kung-Fu II does have elements of what is now considered beat'em-up, but I would say that's more because the genre convetions were not as clearly defined back then. The "beat'em-up" sections of Yie Ar Kung-Fu II are extremely short, more like intermissions if anything. The meat of the game is still the one-on-one fighting, and the two-player mode is strictly traditional one-on-one fighting. In Onna Sansirou, while you face multiple lesser opponents before fighting the "real" opponent, you only fight them one at a time and you stay in the same arena. Beat'em-ups typically have you face multiple opponents at a time and have you move ahead in a progressing level. Ding Chavez (talk) 18:24, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's no question most of those games genres is Beat'em up games. The information on Chun being first is 100% accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.160.108 (talk) 12:15, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave the wording you made alone for now, but do realize that now what you've written contradicts the source? Either 1. New sources must be found or 2. Another rewording must be done. I have an idea on how to do the latter but it's probably gets unnecessarily technical about this. Also, none of the above examples the original commenter listed can be considered actual fighting games except. Beat 'em ups don't count. TheStickMan^[✆Talk] 16:35, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems we mention this wrong claim twice, without disclaimer it is false. It is worth noting the misconception but we are obligated to correct it, not propogate it, 64.228.91.102 (talk) 18:34, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Galactic Warriors is a Beat'em up game and Gaea is not the first playable female fighter. ZezzInfinity (talk) 22:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And those are beat em ups. They have modes that have fighting game modes in there but they aren't proper one-on-one fighting games.so in conclusion Chun Li is the first female playable fighter in a one-on-one Fighting gameZezzInfinity (talk) 23:01, 11 February 2020 (UTC).[reply]

All false. Most of those games are fighters. Gaea is the first playable female fighter and Galactic warriors and all of those games are fighting games. Not beat em ups. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mista Malone the Fourth (talk • contribs) 06:42, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mista Malone the Fourth Fighting game genre wasn't defined properly back then and that's why these games can be considered beat em up in today's standard. 103.120.117.110 (talk) 09:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change article from Chun-Li to Chunli?

Back in the day, her name was spelled "Chun Li", and many people thought Chun was her family name, Li her given name. Later her name was hyphenated. But since so many people usually ignore hyphens at all, she is still spelled Chun Li many times. Her name is mandarin, and mandarin chinese names are romanized today after the Hanyu Pinyin method. In General there are today to recommended methods for chinese and korean given names. Here a graphic:

So one time in the article it's good to distinguish the syllables (Chun-li (the L not capitalized!)), but for the rest Chunli would be the best method. This leads to no confusions anymore. It's like the Tekken character Ling Xiaoyu. Her given name is Chunli. Only a suggestion. Best regards Alleingänger (talk) 01:07, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]