Talk:Killings and massacres during the 1948 Palestine war
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Morris estimation of casualties
[edit]In his book, Morris says the Palestinians suffered "slightly higher, or much higher," than the Israeli losses. The current text leaves out the last three words. Mcdruid (talk) 08:53, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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In the line about how many Arabs died, Benny Morris is stated as claiming "The number of victims on the Arab side is unclear, but according to Benny Morris, it might have been slightly higher." In the actual book, Morris says: "Palestinian losses, in civilians and armed irregulars, are unclear: they may have been slightly higher, or much higher, than the Israeli losses. (Morris 2008, pg. 528). Total Arab losses is higher: he goes on to mention "Egyptian losses, according to an official Egyptian announcement made in June 1950, amounted to some fourteen hundred dead and 3,731 "permanently invalided."27 The Jordanian, Iraqi, and Syrian armies each suffered several hundred dead, and the Lebanese suffered several dozen killed." Mcdruid (talk) 09:00, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- I checked the source and you are correct so I added the extra words. Zerotalk 12:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Why "killings and"?
[edit]Why does it need "killings and"? The smallest is 6 deaths, the definition is often 3 or more. MWQs (talk) 23:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Gelber's Quote
[edit]The quotes attributed to Gelber do not appear on his referenced article, please delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlfredB123 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @AlfredB123: Several works of Gelber are cited. Please indicate which quotes you are referring to. Zerotalk 05:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Removed content for review
[edit]I removed content in this edit. Just putting this here for review in case any of this content was wrongly removed or is salvageable. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 09:32, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- It was added in 2022 by an editor who was later blocked indefinitely for edit-warring. Regarding Dore Gold, he is a professional propagandist (a major figure in the Likud establishment) and we shouldn't care what he writes about anything. I also can't find anything like this in his book and absent a page number it's gone regardless. As for Sivan, he says that 600 Jewish civilians died "during the bombing and siege of Jerusalem". The text in our article said "In contrast to Morris, the Jewish inhabitants of the Old City were expelled and 600 of them were killed". (1) "In contrast to Morris" is wrong as Morris does not disagree with Sivan, and Sivan does not mention Morris. (2) "the Jewish inhabitants of the Old City were expelled" is true but Sivan does not say it. (3) "600 of them were killed" in context seems to imply a massacre in the Old City, but Sivan does not say that. In fact, Sivan says nothing to imply anything except that they were war casualties. Zerotalk 13:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Lydda death toll
[edit]Does anyone know where the range of deaths for the Lydda come from? What is the source of the given upper bound of 1700? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 08:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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