Talk:Barry Sadler

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Wasn't he also a pro wrestler briefly in the late 1970s?

Yes.

The album "A-Team" has been linked to the TV show. Is there any basis for this? I'd never heard there was a connection. RivGuySC 05:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Drguayo 13:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC) I am considering adding a section to this article as Barry was a friend of mine. I knew him from the end of the civil war in Guatemala(1985) until death. The day we met I had been feeling off for a few weeks and ended up sitting beside Barry at Bar Europa. After discussing my symptoms he sent me off to get tested for Hepatitis which I ended up having(type A). The doctor had given me vials to inject myself to aid in liver function so Barry was the one who gave me my first few injections and taught me how to do it. We got together whenever I was in Guatemala(a few months a year) and he was out and about. He was such a character and a real jokester, like the time he sent Freddie a girl from New Orleans:she showed up at Freddie's bar and said "Hi, my name's Toy, Barry sent me for you" - didn't work out well for Freddie as his wife happened to be visiting the bar at the same time - but I do know 2 guys(a French Canadian and an American) who did have a lot of fun over the next week. In the end Barry really wasn't himself as his life had become unmanageable and he was just coping by various destructive habits. What does everyone think? Should I just add a section as an addendum like "The Barry Sadler I knew".

Sorry, but such an addition would violate wikipedia's policies of No original research and verifiability. You'll have to make do with your note here on the talk page. -R. fiend 19:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, it would be great if you would publish this elsewhere (SoF might be interested), let us know, and we could cite it. - Jmabel | Talk 20:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Murder

I removed the statement that Sadler served prison time for the murder of Lee Emerson Bellamy, as there was no source. Googling "Lee Emerson Bellamy" got me one non-wiki entry that referenced Sadler, which said he was acquitted. Seems contentious. Best not to call someone a murderer (even if they're not alive) without some pretty compelling proof. -R. fiend (talk) 04:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

• Ned Raggett says, in passing, "1978 saw Sadler arrested for murder, suspended sentences, started the Casca book series." "Suspended sentences" suggests a conviction, but for something less than murder. He's paraphrasing a talk by Douglas Wolk; someone could probably follow up easily enough with the latter for details, he's a pretty competent researcher so I imagine he knows where he got it. - Jmabel | Talk 19:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Seeing as he was convicted for manslaughter, perhaps a better lead sentence would be 'Barry Sadler (November 1, 1940 – November 5, 1989) was an American soldier, author, musician and convicted killer.' Lexo (talk) 17:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

He was training "Nicaraguan counter-revolutionaries"

• Could someone please reconsider this highly controversial POV term? --91.4.247.108 (talk) 09:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• What's wrong with it? The Contras were counter-revolutionaries. The Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza regime in what can best be described as a revolution, and the Contras wanted to overthrow the Sandinistas. The very word 'Contra' comes from la contrarrevolucion. Lexo (talk) 17:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

• Why is this not in the article? Evidence that he was a mercenary for the Contras, see

Contras were terrorists and violated the rules of war and human rights — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.36.44 (talk) 03:38, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

• The Contras were not a terrorist group, they were a classic insurgency. Insurgents often carry out attacks that can be called terrorist attacks or assassinations, but that doesn't make them terrorists or assassins when their primary activity is guerrilla warfare. For example the Viet Cong carried out hundreds, perhaps thousands, of terrorist attacks on exclusively civilian targets or on off-duty military personnel, and assassinations of civilian government workers, political officials, international aid workers (like Peace Corps, Red Cross, etc). Yet no one would dispute that the Viet Cong were primarily guerrillas, insurgents. It would be NPOV to call the VC terrorists even though they committed terrorism. Walterego (talk) 00:26, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Whatever the Contras were, there's no need to characterize them in this article. Writing something like "Sadler was reported as having assisted the Nicaraguan Contras at the time he was shot" should be sufficient. Him reportedly helping the Contras should definitely be mentioned in the article though. --Ismail (talk) 07:09, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

References

Military awards

Something I've wondered for quite a while: While it was not unusual for SF soldiers to receive the Combat Infantry badge, (even if their primary Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) was not Infantry, most of them held an Infantry secondary MOS qualification), it is unusual for someone with primary MOS in the medical field (Sadler should have been a 91B3S at the time (now 18D) as an SF medic) who served in direct combat NOT to have received a Combat Medic Badge. The same conditions needed to qualify for the CIB for the Infantry types would qualify a medic for the CMB. Any one know why the late SSG Sadler is shown with the CIB? DocKrin (talk) 20:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Broken link: Coole, Terri. "Articles about Barry Sadler - Orlando Sentinel". Articles.orlandosentinel.com. Retrieved 2013-06-03

As of 07/24/2015, the link in citation #6 is broken. I did a quick search for the author's name, Sadler's name, and the Sentinal and could not find a mirror or new host.

What promise?

"He recovered completely and kept his promise." There's no promise mentioned elsewhere in the article. Bizzybody (talk) 02:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)