Talk:Peter the Great

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2020

Under the 'Grand Embassy', the Austrian hyperlink leads to the modern day Republic of Austria, and not the historical Archduchy of Austria. Literatheory (talk) 14:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Link changed to Archduchy of Austria. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 03:00, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Missing information about mistresses

Mary Hamilton and Avdotya Chernysheva are missing from this page, despite having substantive, well-cited pages of their own detailing their relationship with Peter the Great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsomji (talk • contribs) 07:31, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2020

The father of Peter 1 the Great is often said to have been Heraclius 1 the king of Kakheti. In the article of Heraclius 1 it is mentioned that according to this wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclius_I_of_Kakheti#cite_note-1. It is believed by some that Heraclius I of Kakheti was a natural father of Peter the Great. The writer Aleksey Nikolayevich Tolstoy researching the biography of Peter the Great, informed Joseph Stalin that he had unearthed some documents which suggested Peter's father was a Georgian king. He thought he would ingratiate himself with Stalin by telling him this. Instead Stalin was appalled and forbade Tolstoy to mention the matter ever again

the source is Martin McCauley, Stalin and Stalinism: Revised 3rd Edition, 2013, p. 94

One more additional detail, which should be mentioned in this article is the multiple attempts of Georgian noble families to install a Georgian king on the throne of Russia. One of these cases is the case of Dmitri Georgievich Sharvashidze

According to Stanislav Lakoba (https://abkhazworld.com/aw/history/621-an-abkhaz-prince-on-the-russian-throne-by-stanislav-lakoba):

He (Father of Giorgi Dmitreivich Sharvashidze) and Maria Fyodorovna subsequently entered into a morganatic marriage. That marriage is a well-known fact, but the authors of the book “Noble Families of the Russian Empire” (Vol. 4, p.26) for some reason try to deny it. It was in that capacity that Shervashidze accompanied Maria Fyodorovna to England in 1911 at the invitation of King George V to attend the coronation celebrations.

The materials from the Tbilisi archives also reveal that after the abdication of Nicholas II, the Empress Maria Fyodorovna and Georgii Shervashidze tried several times to install on the Russian throne Shervashidze’s son, Dmitrii Georgievich Shervashidze (1880-1937). Nikoloz Sharvashidze (talk) 09:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. "believed by some" is not enough; and one book which seems to be more concerned about Stalin wanting to hide something (and again, these documents supposedly only "suggest") is not enough to override what is very likely the consensus of other sources. The mentions about alternative claimants and attempts to install them might be a possibility (if it would rise above the level of WP:ROUTINE), but someone more familiar in Russian history should look into it before it is included. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2021

The photograph inserted alongside the Peter the Great "Early Life" paragraph which is titled "Taken by Brian Hilbern" should be removed. Apart from the obviously incorrect title, it is also a very poor quality photograph. Even if it were to be correctly titled on the main page, it adds nothing at all to the Peter the Great entry. Simon K simon (talk) 14:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Volteer1 (talk) 15:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Outdated First Citation

The first citation in the article seems to be to a website which no longer holds the information. Does anyone else experience a similar issue? Should the link be removed/replaced? Appologies if this question has been answered elsewhere, I am still new to the site. --SirKirkpatrick (talk) 20:50, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

He had three grandchildren. Please correct the mistake.

By the way. Blocking the page betrays the spirit of Wikipedia. 2003:CC:9F1C:D75D:80FA:CDAD:E34D:C718 (talk) 14:23, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Maybe you are right. Maybe there should be a stable version that can be blocked from certain users due to vandalism and other issues and an unstable version where it can be a free for all without almost any censorship, except the legally necessary. Thinker78 (talk) 14:58, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Wording

User:Orson12345 recently reverted my edit stating that the wording should be the same as Catherine the Great. First, I don't think the change is an improvement. Second, the other article can be corrected as well. One recommendation in general writing is to be as concise as possible without losing quality or meaning. "Most commonly known" are three words. "Better known" are two words. I am not understanding how using three words instead of two to express the same thing is better. Thinker78 (talk) 16:51, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Thinker78:, I simply want the two articles to be consistent with the wording wether it’s “Most commonly known” or “better known”. When you changed the wording for Peter you should have change Catherines as well to make them consistent with each other. Though I personally believe “Most commonly know” sounds more proper, the wording doesn’t matter that much to me as long as it’s consistent with Catherines. Have a nice day! Orson12345 (Talk • Contribs) 17:12, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Orson. I will change both in a couple of days if there is no more input from other editors. But be mindful there are many Russian monarch articles and usually one edits one article without checking another, except in certain situations. Thinker78 (talk) 17:22, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

That’s understandable. Thanks! Orson12345 (Talk • Contribs) 17:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

The lede has become incoherent

This needs to be addressed immediately. A scan of the revision history indicates that the changes were recent. They need to be reverted. Somebody who is a Wikipedia regular, please take care of this. 140.180.240.78 (talk) 17:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Can we include this picture of Peter the Tsar in his wiki article?

File:Peter the Great, Tsar of Russia.jpg 2601:7C0:C000:5CF0:492E:9815:AFCA:F4AA (talk) 05:13, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Spelling correction needed

Please change "fiveteen" to "fifteen." 24.4.128.188 (talk) 05:50, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2023

Peter the Great is played by Nicholas Hoult in Hulu's "The Great" ThatsSoLola (talk) 21:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Nevermind, wrong Peter! ThatsSoLola (talk) 21:14, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Callmemirela 🍁 21:20, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2023

Change "fiveteen" to fifteen under the section about how many children Peter had. 161.69.116.10 (talk) 12:41, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for picking up the error. Chewings72 (talk) 12:54, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2023

In the sentence "He promoted higher eduction and the industrialization in the Russian Empire.", change "eduction" to "education" Sdulkjyvy (talk) 19:09, 28 July 2023 (UTC)  Done. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 20:13, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Peter introduced the Julian Calendar, not the Gregorian Calendar Please correct.

Until 1700 the Byzantine Calendar was used in Russia. It is similar to the Julian Calendar except the year starts on September 1 and years are counted since the creation of the world in 5509 BC (Anno Mundi) In December 1699 Peter changed this by adopting the Julian Calendar, shifting the beginning of the year to January 1 and counting years from the birth of Christ (Anno Domini) The Julian calendar was used until Lenin introduced the Gregorian Calendar. I see now this is mentioned in the article itself, but the introduction wrongly mentions the Gregorian Calendar insteadDebro72 (talk) 13:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

@Debro72 Do you think Julian Calendar is counting from Birth of Christ? Did Julius Caesar know about it? Julian Calendars is 365-365-365-366 and nothing more.

But you have right, no Gregorian was introduced by Peter. 176.59.168.11 (talk) 13:59, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Remarks

Since yesterday, I am not allowed to alter the "mainspace" but could someone added this sentence to the section: Later years or at the end of Second Embassy? (By decree of November 5,)

• In 1718, Peter gave Messerschmidt the task to "collect rarities and medicinal plants" from Siberia and he reported to L. Blumentrost.Taksen (talk) 06:58, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I am glad this article became very popular (as I am still the main author) but some details could be changed.

• His mother Natalya Naryshkina had Tatar origin, which explains his dark complexion.
• This sentence makes no sense: In Poland, Augustus II was restored as King.
• Back in Holland he visited Harderwijk and Cleves. Kleve is not in Holland, it needs an internal link, likewise Harderwijk.
• This sentence should be moved forward, just one sentence: The log-cabin he rented became the Czar Peter House.
• He sailed to Texel to see a fleet. This sentence could be changed into: He sailed to Texel to see the arrival of a whaling fleet.

I am surprised nobody came to assist although this article has top importance. When I checked the page views, since five years, two people a day visit the talk page on the average. Not very helpful to get attention. More than 500 people have this article on their watchlist but not one of them thinks he can help. What went wrong? Is it the cancel culture? Taksen (talk) 02:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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The Order of Saint Andrew the Apostle the First-Called

Peter the Great has introduced The Order of Saint Andrew the Apostle the First-Called. The backside of the badge has a white-gold object. I believe I can identify this object. But I first like to ask if this object has been identified already and what it is. And why this is part of the badge. The object: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orde_van_Sint-Andreas_de_Eerstgeroepene#/media/Bestand:Badge_to_Order_St_Andrew_both_sides.jpg Eddenh (talk) 14:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

ISBN

Someone likes to see more ISBN; he is not looking himself for this information but others should do. Anyhow, who uses these ISBN? I suppose only librarians and booksellers, not users. I understood it is not necessary anymore to add the city where a book was published. It is complete outdated since we have internet. Almost any book can be found without adding an ISBN or a city.Taksen (talk) 02:48, 8 September 2024 (UTC)