Talk:John Knox
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Religious Fanaticism
[edit]There are some sources who point clearly for his religious faith to have been a lot influenced by the Old Testament, which made him much more fanatic thowards Catholicism then the European Continental Reformers. This article from the "Catholic Encyclopedia" [1] points that he openly believed to be a moral duty of the "real" Christians" to slaughter the Catholics, which he saw as "idolaters". If this is true, I think it should be mentioned in the article.85.240.21.40 (talk) 20:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- You are writing about this sentence in the Catholic Encyclopaedia: in 1564, "The Lords of the Congregation, in the summer of this year, publicly censured Knox for his violence in speech and demeanour against the queen, but Knox retorted with his usual references to Ahab and Jezebel, and maintained that idolaters must "die the death", and that the executioners must be the "people of God"." This a reasonably accurate description of a lengthy passage of dialogue in Knox's own History of the Reformation in Scotland, book 4, (vol.2 (1848), Wodrow Society, pp.401-460). However, they were talking about Old Testament idolators (not present slaughtering), in a discussion about Knox's challenges to the authority of Mary, Queen of Scots, and the discussion was with the Queen herself and then her Privy council, particularly featuring William Maitland of Lethington and James MacGill. I hope this is helpful.Unoquha (talk) 10:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- The incident above appears in the present wiki article as; "When the General Assembly convened in June 1564, an argument broke out between Knox and Maitland over the authority of the civil government."Unoquha (talk) 10:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- The Catholic Encyclopedia is hardly a neutral source. For this kind of statement, you're probably going to need to find a more WP:NPOV source than the CE. ReformedArsenal (talk) 11:10, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Reliable Sources can have a POV and it is entirely permissible to use them - if balance is needed, another RS can be used to point out a different POV.104.169.18.254 (talk) 11:04, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- The Catholic Encyclopedia is hardly a neutral source. For this kind of statement, you're probably going to need to find a more WP:NPOV source than the CE. ReformedArsenal (talk) 11:10, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- The incident above appears in the present wiki article as; "When the General Assembly convened in June 1564, an argument broke out between Knox and Maitland over the authority of the civil government."Unoquha (talk) 10:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Margery Bowes' brother
[edit]The article had a link to Robert Bowes (lawyer) (who died in 1555) with the statement that he was Margery Bowes' brother. I've replaced it with a link to Robert Bowes (diplomat) (who died in 1597), who according to RS was Margery's brother. NinaGreen (talk) 18:31, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Death Knell of John Knox at the Tate Museum
[edit]‘Death Knell for John Knox’ was directly inspired by Bellany's revelatory discovery in a biography of Knox that ‘he was not as white as the driven snow’. He has explained that Knox's death was melodramatic to the point that Strindberg or Ibsen looked like Walt Disney in comparison. Knox's passion for his sixteen year old step daughter was at its highest peak, his wife, her mother turned a blind eye to the iniquities. Then Knox had a nightmare that he was in Hell and woke from his vision a distraught and terrorised man and his death scene was hardly filled with singing of angelic choirs, but remorse and soul searching and extreme anguish of spirit and soul until the life left him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:8241:5600:95A5:8235:F950:3006 (talk) 17:11, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
- I dislike Johnny Knox as well as any man, but such sentiments on an imagined and alleged offence seems overwrought. Fair play to the old rascal.
- The Tate picture
- Mr. Bellany's output seem rather depressing anyway. Claverhouse (talk) 18:50, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Second
[edit]The name of John Knox's second wife is said to be Elizabeth Stewart and Margaret Stewart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.12.86 (talk) 12:46, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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Confinement in the French Galleys
[edit]n February 1549, after spending a total of 19 months in the galley-prison, Knox was released. It is uncertain how he obtained his liberty. Later in the year, Henry II arranged with Edward VI of England the release of all remaining Castilian prisoners.
Which Castilians were these ? This is the first and only mention. Claverhouse (talk) 18:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
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