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Good articleFriends has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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February 21, 2009Good article nomineeListed
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On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on May 6, 2023, and May 6, 2024.
Current status: Good article

Requested move 2 June 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There are different proposals raised in in the discussion:

  1. To move as proposed;
  2. To move to Friends (1994 TV series);
  3. To remain status quo.

On (TV series) vs (1994 TV series), as raised by various participants, pageviews for this series is significantly higher than the other numerous series, and in examining the charts, have been consistently so despite the introduction of newer serieses of the same name. Therefore WP:PDAB would be applicable, and the article would have been moved to (TV series). However in examining the various arguments, I find that the those opposing a move of any kind holds stronger: statistics (pageviews between this series and other series similarly named, and the concept friendship (consolidated); wikinav; google search results ranking) clearly demonstrated that this series is the primary topic of 'Friends'. As mentioned by various participants, there are also hatnotes pointing to 'Friendship' and the dab page and the arrangement is sufficient. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 06:04, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]


FriendsFriends (TV series) – Love the show, but "Friends" should redirect to Friendship. 90.255.15.152 (talk) 16:28, 2 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – MaterialWorks 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose For the record, this was discussed at Talk:Friends (disambiguation) in 2019, so basically I'll repeat myself. This page gets millions of views per year and so I think it is what readers want for this term and moving it would not improve the encyclopedia. I didn't support the move in the last discussion, but the DAB page as primary, I can see why someone would think that. The WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT proposal here is an AWFUL idea, this page is extremely highly viewed, way more than Friendship, no evidence anyone would want that! --Quiz shows 17:05, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Quiz shows Look at WP:NWFCTM. What's more significant, friendship which has been around for millions of years, or a 30 year old TV show. 90.255.15.152 (talk) 16:56, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, but move to Friends (1994 TV series) - due to other series with that name (WP:INCDAB), and per WP:ASTONISH and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (everyday usage and long-term significance). A TV show never deserves primary status over an everyday term from which it inherits its meaning - view counts be damned. Just like any corporate creation, we should follow the apple/Apple Inc. precedent. I am fine with waiting to repoint the leftover redirect for 30 days after the TV show article has been moved, to allow external search engines to catch up. After this move, this page will still get is "millions of views" because that's how external search engines work. -- Netoholic @ 17:31, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This discussion has been had before. I don't think anything major has changed in four years, and the page views for this being the primary topic is convincing enough for me. Ss112 18:39, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. A wise man said at the previous RM: "Nothing astonishing here as far as I can see. Friends was viewed five million times last year; its daily average is almost as much as the total amount of views Friends (disambiguation) gets in twelve months. A roadblock isn't warranted here." I don't see any reason to have changed my mind. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:59, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Page views aren't important. Think of the reason why the show is called what it is. 90.255.15.152 (talk) 13:44, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Friends should direct to friendship or Quakers. The TV show may be currently popular but has neither the "long-term significance" nor "educational value" to be deemed the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per PT2. Walrasiad (talk) 19:39, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've already said I dislike the programme, but to say [t]he TV show may be currently popular but has neither the "long-term significance" nor "educational value" is not true - it ended in 2004. And yet you admit that it's currently popular - which is not bad for a show that ended 19 years ago. Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:52, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If I was to go out and say friends to 100 people I bet at least 90 of them will say something about the show this is one of the most well know shows ever Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 13:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that depends where you live. Walrasiad (talk) 20:08, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: Relisting to get a clearer consensus. – MaterialWorks 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Television has been notified of this discussion. – MaterialWorks 16:59, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Comedy has been notified of this discussion. – MaterialWorks 16:59, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Friends as the tv show, with friendship for the concept, makes sense. The text at the top of the page helps anyone who is on the wrong page. 2A00:23C8:185:B501:4484:7CDB:ABD1:DEF4 (talk) 14:04, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for the various reasons stated above. The hatnote already tells readers if they're looking for the idea of "friendship" itself or other related terms. The show is still very popular worldwide and sees much more page views than the concept of friendship. Outside of Wikipedia, even Googling "Friends" will bring up many results related to the tv series (if that's worth noting). Clear Looking Glass (talk) 01:14, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral on the proposed move, but oppose a move to Friends (1994 TV series) as unnecessarily WP:PRECISE. The 1994 TV series receives 148 times as many monthly pageviews as all other TV series titled "Friends" combined (stats link), which places it well within normal bounds for an acceptable WP:PDAB. ModernDayTrilobite (talkcontribs) 19:22, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose; yes, pageviews aren't everything, but when the TV series gets almost 8x as many views as the concept of Friendship since July 2015, I find it hard to make a case for a primary redirect to Friendship. The argument for a DAB page is a bit stronger with the existence of Quakers, but it's still not very close. I just don't think a different setup from what we currently have would actually aid our readers, especially with the hatnotes in place. Wikinav's graphs are only half working right now, but over the past two months, Friendship isn't even in the top 10 most outgoing pageviews from Friends. (The 1994 TV series disambiguation is even worse – this is literally the exact situation WP:PDAB is meant for?) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 03:47, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Implied? Should be reliably sourced not implied

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"It is heavily implied in the spin-off series, Joey, that Rachel married Ross after the series finale." Please remove this sentence from the article. The information in this encyclopedia should be reliably sourced WP:RS not "implied", not even "heavily implied". -- 109.79.65.30 (talk) 15:14, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@109.79.65.30 don't be daft. Nuances, emotions and implications cannot be "reliably sourced'
Would you remove Father Christmas from Wiki as he cannot be "reliably sourced" 209.93.179.192 (talk) 06:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, reliable sourcing still applies to fiction. Married or not married is factual information and facts must be reliably sourced. A general opinion that the characters appeared to be in love or still a couple would be an opinion, and even then that should be attributed to the reviewer, not the own interpretation of a wikipedia editor that something was "heavily implied". Facts need to be backed by sources. -- 109.79.69.216 (talk) 15:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replace X "It is heavily implied in the spin-off series, Joey, that Rachel married Ross after the series finale." with Y ""
i.e. delete the original research because this encyclopedia is supposed to be based on verifiable facts WP:V not guesswork. -- 109.77.197.22 (talk) 17:10, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 01:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2023

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Reunion series after 17 years. Jzheng66 (talk) 02:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 02:33, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2023

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Grammar: change "tightly wound" to "tightly-wound" (in the description of Monica) 2A00:23C4:F902:3E01:EC07:FD17:4401:F29A (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: MOS:HYPHEN. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 17:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About the show

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This show starts off when Ross, Pheobe, Monica, Joey, and Chandler meet Rachel who was a high school friend of Monica's. Rachel runs away from her wedding and seeks shelter in Monica's apartment. The story continues, showing us what happens in their lives. Although this show is good, it is not the best. It has a slow plot and and is not very enjoyable to watch and is overrated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.205.249.128 (talk) 11:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with many people that say things like that. I think friends is a great show, but you can have your own opinion. 🤷🏼‍♀️ 2603:900A:2007:8474:1897:3314:46E8:AB72 (talk) 14:00, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]