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American NPOV Articles for deletion/American NPOV was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE

Uh, patent nonsense at this time... Evercat 00:46, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

  • I think this is some sort of anti-American rant...maybe? Delete as nonsensical, rant. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 00:49, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not a recognized term. Not encyclopedic. Original research. And presents a specific point of view. Dpbsmith 00:59, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC) P. S. As one example of an unsupported statement, the article says that the USA is "The only case of a Western country of wich the inhabitants doesn't know at all the historical backgrounds of the other important countries in the story of mankind." You have got to cite evidence if you're going to say things like this. The U. S. is not the only country with its Colonel Blimps and Nicolas Chauvins. I would offer Massachusetts curriculum framework as evidence that in Massachusetts, the official high school curriculum covers topics such as "WHII.1Describe the growing consolidation of political power in Europe from 1500 to 1800 as manifested in the rise of nation states ruled by monarchs. (H, C, E) A. the rise of the French monarchy, including the policies and influence of Louis XIV B. the Thirty Years War and the Peace of Westphalia C. the growing power of Russian tsars, including the attempts at Westernization by Peter the Great, the growth of serfdom, and Russia’s rise as an important force in Eastern Europe and Asia D. the rise of Prussia E. Poland and Sweden WHII.2 Explain why England was the main exception to the growth of absolutism in royal power in Europe. (H, C) A. the causes and essential events of the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution of 1688 B. the effect of the Glorious Revolution on the development of constitutional government and liberty in England, including the importance of the English Bill of Rights and how it limited the power of the monarch to act without the consent of Parliament WHII.3Summarize the important causes and events of the French Revolution. (H, C, E)"
    • What? --Ardonik 01:42, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete this imbecillic rant. The talk page of the creator, User:Bushit, seems to indicate that he's an anti-Bush troll who defaced the George W. Bush article. I'll view his contributions with suspicion in the future. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't like Bush either, but there are more intelligent ways to debate about that. --Ardonik 01:39, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)
  • Deleted. Forgive me being pre-emptory here, but I blanked the page apart from the VfD notice. The page is so obviously a troll with no encyclopedic merit whatsoever that I'm not sure we even need a debate. And no, I'm not American. Graham 02:00, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Ahem. American Neutral Point of View? What does this mean? No, I don't want to know. Delete. Exploding Boy 02:21, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)
  • I've speed deleted it as patent nonsense. It's a total waste of time to debate its merits -- I guess that was the whole point, for User:Bushit. -- Wile E. Heresiarch 03:06, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Any way to delete this guy's user page? That photo is just wrong. Wonder what he'll say in November when Dubya gets re-elected by a landslide? - Lucky 6.9 04:40, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
There probably is, but I believe he is within his rights to post that picture there - it stands solely as his personal opinion. The problem arises when trying to make an encyclopedia article (which is meant to be objective) with that point of view. Personally, I believe he has a point and there are some disquieting parallels between Bush and Hitler, but so what, WP is not the right place to voice these - the ballot box is. BTW, I'd like to think that despite some degree of evidence to the contrary, the American people are smarter than you suggest ;-) Happy trolling! Graham 05:33, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Trolling? Moi? Ah, British humour.  :^)) - Lucky 6.9 16:17, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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