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Too much like a book advertisement

In what might be called an excess of zeal, Latin Heart Reader has turned this article into one highly dominated by the theories expressed in two recent books by the Kesselrings. Latin Heart Reader has also donated numerous of his or her own pictures, some of which appear to be scanned from a book, causing one to wonder whether Latin Heart Reader may be one of the Kesselrings. Latin Heart Reader, whoever you are, and no matter how excited you are by the Kesselring's theories, please curb your enthusiasm, and allow the article to represent a broader perspective. This article should not be dominated so nearly completely by one couple's theories, and should not be turned into a promotion for their books. Regards. Plazak (talk) 05:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It do like the new images, but they detract from the article. It would be nice if they could be incoporated in a better fashion.--Auric talk 12:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to justifiably update or modify entries

Hello, the page was nearly empty and the material provided responded to many of the prior misconceptions with tangible facts. Without the photos the text could be nothing more than an opinion. Sorry if they distract or could be incorporated better. Feel free to alter but do so with justification. As to style, I like the changes to date. The reason for posting the material with photos is to initiate a new interest in the material and initiate a scientific inquiry and debate. My opinion is that the date 1847 is significant as it coincides with the New Mexican effort to secede from the US and Mexico to form its own nation as Texas had done. Its plausible the bullion is a cache shipped out of Santa Fe during the rebellion in an effort to fund the new nation. The loss of the bullion and maps may explain the surprising turn around in politics to join the US instead of form a new nation. But that is a theory without inputs from other scientific inquiries or historians. So the zeal goes beyond the material on display, it intentionally leads to another line of inquiry that seems important to US History.Latin Heart Reader (talk) 15:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert L. Kesselring

There is no mention of Robert Kesselring, who in 2014 deciphered the map and found what he thinks may be the Church Treasure, using an underground scanning device and geolocation to plot several mines found on the map, and locating all the references on the stones. He left the site undisturbed but published an extensive report of his findings and process, and has had several articles written about his work, and is the subject of a documentary. This article should be updated to reflect that.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:189:8201:b000:c92d:c207:6d78:89b5 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map location well if anybody would ever listen to me I know where the old mine is to the maps I found it I tried to tell people it's in the Henry mountains my dad showed me when I was a little kid if somebody did ever listen I would show him where it is like all the details on the maps in my mind I know it's on the map and I didn't even seen it

I know where map will you the gagger 1847the arrow points the way the hear is carved in a cliffface 2601:681:5000:3BB0:2DD9:F8D7:53C2:D835 (talk) 08:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images

All of the images provided by the LatinHeartReader account in 2013 to Commons for this article are problematic. They are of incredibly poor quality and likely have been lifted from a previously-published source, the "Superstition Mountain Historical Society archives" per desertusa(dot)com or from that website itself. Shearonink (talk) 18:31, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So far as I can tell...all of the images are probably lifted from desertusa(dot)com. The earliest wayback machine saved URL I can find is this one: https://web.archive.org/web/20140715020105/https://www.desertusa.com/lost-dutchman/peralta-stones4/peralta-gold4.html from 2014. It is one year after these photos were posted to WP/Commons *BUT* 1)copyright i asserted and 2)the website copyright starts in 1996. It is also possible the images are from a published book but I have been unable to confirm that possibility. Shearonink (talk) 17:21, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]