Talk:Club sandwich

Danny Mears Did Not Invent It

Someone is intent on getting a line in the article about the club sandwich being invented by "a maverick line cook named Danny Mears." There's no cited support for this assertion and the wording is suspicious. I've seen a number of sources elsewhere repeating this claim copied directly from wikipedia (some cited, some not), but nothing that independently supports it. My guess is that someone knows a guy by that name and wants him to go down in internet history as the inventor of the club sandwich. Either way, they keep sneaking it in right next to a citation, which is easy to miss, and most recently someone changed the citation to point to a "source" that was lifted directly from an earlier version of the page. Someone caught the citation change and reverted it, but the text change got through. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.28.86 (talk) 02:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Terrible picture

thats a terrible picture, its mostly fries. someone fix this, now!

Perhaps I am mistaken, but I have always understood that the canonical "club sandwich" contained turkey, lettuce, tomato, and bacon.

See, for example: http://www.foodtv.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_15658,00.html http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/SandwichHistory.htm

Dominus 08:43, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

There's now a better picture in the article, so I've removed the one with the fries obscuring the sandwich. boffy_b 18:52, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

This is not a club sandwich in the picture. Club sandwiches are in quarters. AndrewSta (talk) 02:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Current picture is not in quarters and also it's difficult to see the layers. It's also not particularly neat. Part of the club sandwich is the neat construction and cutting. 86.130.174.142 (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2014 (UTC) Mark

"General" Section

Most of the information here is so general as to be nearly completely useless. Fries are commonly served with many sandwiches, and parsley is a common decoration for any type of food. I also can't say I've heard of eating club sandwiches with ketchup. I'm skeptical that this happens any more for clubs than for any other type of sandwich. It'd also be nice to get a better photo; you can hardly see the club under all those fries. Pimlottc 13:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Ingredients

The ingredients are almost universally turkey, bacon, lettuce, and tomatoes, however, I have seen club sandwiches with ham and roast beef as well as turkey. I didn't really know if these are "true" clubs, or just some poor facsimile, so I included these ingredents as alternatives. Does anybody know for sure?

In my (US) experience, those are the standard ingrediants. If there is a variance, it's most commonly the use of another meat instead of turkey, which is added a modifier to the name. For example, a "chicken club" would be chicken, bacon, lettuce and tomato. Pimlottc 12:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I should note that it is almost universally served on three slices of bread. 67.136.242.106 04:44, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

This is also my understanding. It's also the most obviously visual distinction between a club sandwhich and other types. Pimlottc 12:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Does nobody think cheese is a common ingredient? I don't eat a clubhouse without. I have heard either way is still a club, anyone know?

Here's my version for your reference. Toasted bread with bacon, lettuce, mayonnaise, tomato, turkey, EGG and AVOCADO. It seems nobody here mention about egg and avocado as variants.(recipe from the restaurant I'm working) 218.102.191.207 (talk) 13:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that some investigation would show that turkey did not appear on the club sandwich until the jogging-low-fat-craze of the latter 1970's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.115.194 (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

The club sandwich was my first culinary epiphany, and I have been eating them for 65 years. In that time, I was served cheese only once; the restaurant was later found to be a front for a drug ring. To me it consists of chicken, bacon, tomato, lettuce and mayonnaise on three slices of bread. The link on the main page supports me on the chicken issue, but turkey is acceptable.Barnaby the Scrivener (talk) 12:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

A true club would be chicken lettuce under bacon. (Literally what club stands for) 68.116.114.116 (talk) 20:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Toasted

I noted that the bread is toasted when I edited the article. If someone wants to write a paragraph about how the bread should always be toasted, go ahead.

For that matter, what the he** is "occasionally" toasted bread? Can understand that it may be made with plain or toasted bread, but not bread that occasionally gets toasted (like some sort of random event that sometimes happens). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.90.64 (talk) 22:27, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Name?

Why is it called a club sandwich?--Primal Chaos 17:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I came, because i was confused because of its name. My guesses were: It was named Clubsandwich because it was served in clubs like it is today. For example in between a golf session or on a beach "club", it was a welcomed, easy prepared and fast meal, a more modern version of a hamburger (and not as heavy). (I did my own research and noticed that many of those clubs were serving those kind of sandwiches. An indicator is that i is sometimes also called clubhouse sandwich...

Second, club can also be ment as a wooden chunk used as a weappon, and its obiously big size can be understood as eating a club, of course just colloquial. (I know it sounds stupid)

User:Queen-Max18:35, 7 April 2007 (GMT +1:00)

If anything, club sandwiches are fairly light fare - so the "big size" comment doesn't make much sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.32 (talk) 15:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Most nightclubs serve some variant of it. This is the origin of the name "*C*L*U*B*" sandwich!174.113.240.160 (talk) 07:49, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

How often

as anyone ordered a club sandwhich and been brought the sandwich described in this article?

Most of the "clubs" I've had were turkey, ham, bacon, cheese, tomatoe, and lettuce. The second most common has been turkey, ham, roast beef, cheese, tomatoe, and lettuce. At Subway I'd get turkey, ham, roast beef, bacon, cheese plus veggies. I've seen the sandwhich on this page plus cheese sold as a "turkey club" but I can't think of a restaurant where a "club" is used to describe a sandwhich with turkey, bacon, tomatoe, and lettuce only. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.140.244.90 (talk) 01:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The unsigned comment above is a good point. The sandwich currently described in the article is a standardized item. There are lots of variations also called club sandwiches.

The article version from last September better recognized the diversity of things that are called club sandwiches. Wanderer57 (talk) 16:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

In A Cook's Bible by New Zealand-based Lesley Christensen-Yule and Hamish McRae (Penguin, Auckland, 2007), it describes the American ("classic") club sandwich has two layers of fillings chicken, bacon, hard-boiled egg, lettuce and mayonnaise, and in the New Zealand version ("New Zealand club sandwich") one of the two layers of filling is the meaty one and mayonnaise, and the other one has the vegetables, and egg is not used. My personal experience is that I have has club sandwiches at Carlton Hotel in Auckland (now Rendez-vous Hotel) and Cathedral Cafe in Christchurch, and both versions conform to this observation. --JNZ (talk) 06:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Huh?

This article starts: "A club sandwich, also called a clubhouse sandwich, is a sandwich with toasted bread." This would appear to be saying that the defining characteristic of a club sandwich is that it is made with toasted bread - of course, other sandwiches can be made with toasted bread but that certainly wouldn't necessarily make them club sandwiches, so something is obviously not right here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.32 (talk) 01:26, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

and egg in a traditional club sandwich? don't think so. while turkey seems to be the meat of choice since I was a lad (maybe the last forty years), it appears that chicken breast may be more traditional. So, a basic club sandwich has bacon, tomato, lettuce, mayo, and turkey/chicken on three slices of toast. you can possibly have one with ham, cheese, maybe even egg, but don't think you'd say those are traditional club sandwiches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.32 (talk) 01:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Stub?

This article is categorized as a "Food stub." I don't know when it was categorized as such, but I don't see this article in its current form as an stub. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 16:46, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Another story for the name

Some time ago, McDonalds posted a video showing a chef making a big mac in a home kitchen. According to that video, the three sections of the bun were the heel (bottom), crown (top) and the club (the center). I have no evidence that this naming didn't come after the fact, however, the defining aspect of a club sandwich is that it's made with three bread layers, so this story does make sense.

Nsayer (talk) 20:42, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

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Egg included in a club sandwich

I think in modern times an egg should be included in a club sandwich 140.241.244.203 (talk) 17:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)