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The following discussion comes from Wikipedia:Categories for deletion. This is an archive of the discussion only; please do not edit this page. -Kbdank71 14:52, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Category:Disorders

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Should probably be Category:Psychiatric disorders, which will then fit as a subcategory of Category:Diseases. Alex.tan 05:15, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

How does Category:Growth disorders (a subcat) fit under your proposed new name? RedWolf 06:32, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
Well, according to the dictionary definition of disease and disorder, I can only assume that the word "disease" is broader in definition in defining something regarded as an abnormal process in the body. Therefore, Category:Growth disorders should be a subcat of Category:Diseases. Alex.tan 16:43, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
*phew* lot of wind there to just say "ummm, let's ask that guy over there ..."
Courtland 18:25, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)
If Category:Disorders is redefined to be the precise medical term, I think that should be then be renamed Category:Medical disorders. This helps avoid us non-medical people adding things like as chaos, entropy, or the blues. --A D Monroe III 13:32, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've put up a note asking for input @ Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Clinical_medicine#On_the_topic_of_.22Category:Disorders.22. Courtland 03:52, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)

In response to your request for input from the doctors' mess, may I respectfully suggest we all write articles and not waste our time on this argument? While certain conditions are more commonly called a disorder than a disease and vice versa, I honestly don't think there is the slightest difference when the terms are used by themselves as categories. When you think of a category as a guide to what articles you will find in this category, I can't think of any useful difference between category:endocrine disorders vs category:endocrine diseases, and the same for psychiatric disorders vs psychiatric diseases, etc. Is that helpful? alteripse 06:53, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Helpful in content but not in tone. Thank you. Courtland 23:45, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)
Indeed, I appreciate the respectful assumption that I'm good at writing articles, but alas I'm not. Which is why I help out where I can. Personally, I don't think trying to get it right is a waste of time, but maybe that's just me. -Kbdank71 18:33, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
mc2w: As another view from the mess: I agree with all the above! Alteripse is right re the very blurry distinction between disorder and diseases. (the thing I love about Alteripse he's one of the few people less tactful than me!) I think the only purpose of having separate categories would be to confuse everybody (so good on you all for trying to sort it out!) To my mind, for the purposes of organising an enccylopedia the notion of disorders is the most usefull (because it is the most inlcusive, and least perjorative). I would lump all the diseases into disorders and if anything delete disease categories. hope that helps, best wishes Erich 01:16, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I apologize if anyone didn't like my tone. I am so aware of our woefully inadequate medical content, and have noticed how much the categories have changed and come and gone over the last year, that I am a bit dismayed to see people arguing over whether to call these streets or avenues when most of the buildings in our town are still shanties and somebody will come along and rename the street in 6 months anyway. Don't sell yourselves short at being able to start articles. And I agree exactly with gasboy. alteripse 14:51, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Votes so far:

  • Category:Psychiatric disorders under Category:Diseases - Alex.tan, Pharos, A D Monroe III
  • Category:Psychiatric disorders under Category:Medical disorders under Category:Diseases: Courtland
  • Don't distinguish disease and disorder: alteripse, Erich

I have yanked all the physical diseases from Category:Disorders. I will shortly do:

There are similar problems with two subcategories, which I will now nominate separately. There are larger problems with classification in Category:Medicine which will need to be dealt with elsewhere. -- Beland 06:15, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Done. Delete at will. -- Beland 07:01, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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