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A fact from Coeur d'Alene people appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 August 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that members of the Coeur d'Alene nation refer to themselves in their own language as Schitsu'umsh?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/August.

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Possible copyright violation

I edited the original article I began yesterday, which was blocked due to a possible copyright violation spotted by SWAdair. The majority of this article is an original compilation from various sources cited in the bibliography. The ethnology section does need a major re-work.

I will admit I am a clueless newbie.

--Robbie Giles 17:08, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)

Robbie, it is newbies like you that we adore. I've checked some of your other edits. Great work! Glad to have you here. I'm eagerly awaiting the re-write. SWAdair | Talk 03:41, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Needs split between ethno and gov articles

This should, by its title, be a government article; the ethnographic material should be on Coeur d'Alene people or Coeur d'Alene (tribe): I suggest the former to avoid too much greater confusion, but it's necessary to split government articles from both ethnography and reservation articles.Skookum1 (talk) 19:54, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Very well designed and referenced, but it looks half-built; many sections consist of a mere title. Needs thorough expansion Phaedriel - Feb 17, 06

Substituted at 05:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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Correct spelling and history of Coeur d’Alene

OMG! Coeur d Alene was a French name given to the area by white fur trappers in the early 18th century. The Indians called themselves the Schitsu’umsh...they are now referred to as both Schitsu’umsh and the Coeur D’Alene Indians (Coeur d’Alene being French, means heart of the awl and is correctly pronounced “Coordalene” NOT how you have it. !!! 50.37.208.119 (talk) 17:49, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not Coordalene. IPA= kœrdal3n (with upside down R sign and the 3 in the other direction), that's "œ" sounds, between the e in "je" and the "eu" in "jeu".

Cœur d'Alène. 2A02:8429:D43D:C101:B8B3:9406:3571:EA34 (talk) 19:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

The "further reading" section in the article is far too long. I'm moving the extra books, etc. here in case anyone wants to use them as a source in the future. Yuchitown (talk) 15:58, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

Chalfant, Stuart A; Bischoff, William N. Historical Material Relative to Coeur d'Alene Indian Aboriginal Distribution. New York: Garland Pub. Inc, 1974
Cody, Edmund R. History of the Coeur d'Alene Mission of the Sacred Heart: Old Mission, Cataldo, Idaho : on the Union Pacific between Spokane and Wallace and on the Yellowstone Trail between Coeur d'Alene and Kellogg. Caldwell, Idaho : Caxton Printers, 1930
The Coeur D'Alene Indian Reservation. Fairfield, Wash.: Ye Galleon Press, 1970.
Diomedi, Alexander. Sketches of Modern Indian Life. Woodstock, Md., 1894 (A photocopy of the original is available for viewing in Manuscripts Archives and Special Collections, Washington State University in Pullman, WA.)
Fahey, John. Saving the Reservation: Joe Garry and the Battle to Be Indian. Seattle: University of Washington Press, 2001.
Fortier, Ted. Religion and Resistance in the Encounter between the Coeur d'Alene Indians and Jesuit Missionaries. Lewiston, N.Y.: Edwin Mellen Press, 2002.
Frey, Rodney, edited. Stories that Make the World: Oral Literature of the Indian Peoples of the Inland Northwest as told by Lawrence Aripa, Tom Yellowtail and other Elders. Norman and London: University of Oklahoma Press, 1995.
Frey, Rodney, in collaboration with the Schitsu'umsh. Landscape Traveled by Coyote and Crane: The World of the Schitsu'umsh (Coeur d'Alene Indians). Seattle and London: University of Washington Press, 2001.
Hart, E. Richard, "The Coeur D'Alene Tribe's Claim to Lake Coeur D'Alene," American Indian Culture and Research Journal, 24:1) (2000):183–188.
Johnson, Lawrence and Peterson, Jacqueline. The People Today: Closing the Circle. Pullman, Wash.: Washington State Univ., c. 1993. (This is a video recording by Lawrence Johnson Productions and the De Smet Project "Sacred Encounters.")
Johnson, Robert Erik. The Role of Phonetic Detail in Coeur d'Alene Phonology. Pullman, Washington: Washington State University, 1975. Thesis (Ph.D.)
Kowrach, Edward and Thomas Connolly, edited. Saga of the Coeur d'Alene Indians: An Account of Chief Joseph Seltice. Fairfield, Washington: Ye Galleon Press, 1990.
Mainstream (video recording). Spokane School District #81. Spokane, Wash.: KSPS-TV ; distributed by GPN Films, 1977. (From an essay "Beyond Mainstream America" by Janet Campbell-Hale. Featuring Diana Abrahamson, Torry Abrahamson, Lorena Abrahamson, Cecilia Abrahamson, Louie Andrews, Dave Edinger, Tillie Mommee. This segment explores the resurgence of pride in tribal values and identities and explores the lifestyles, culture, and lore of the Colville, Flathead, Coeur d'Alene, Kalispel, Kootenai, Nez Perce, and Spokane Indians.)
Manring, Benjamin Franklin. The Conquest of the Coeur d'Alenes, Spokanes and Palouses: The expeditions of Colonels E.J. Steptoe and George Wright against the "northern Indians" in 1858. Spokane, Wash.: Printed by Inland Printing Company, 1912.
Nicodemus, Lawrence G. Snchitsuumshtsn: The Coeur d'Alene Language : A Modern Course. Plummer, Idaho : Coeur d'Alene Tribe, 1975.
The Old Mission Church of the Coeur d'Alene Indians. Spokane: Gonzaga College Press.
Palladino, Lawrence B. The Coeur d'Alene Reservation and Our friends the Coeur d'Aleine Indians. Fairfield, Wash.: Galleon Press, 1967.
Point, Nicolas, Wilderness Kingdom: Indian Life in the Rocky Mountains: 1840–1847; The Journal and Paintings of Nicolas Point. S.J. Translated by Joseph Donnelly. New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1967.
Ray, Verne. Cultural Relations in the Plateau of Northwestern America. Los Angeles: Publications of the Frederick Webb Hodge Anniversary Publication Fund, Vol. 3., 1939.
Reichard, Gladys. An Analysis of Coeur d'Alene Indian Myths. Philadelphia: American Folklore Society, 1947. New York: Kraus Reprint, 1969.
Teit, James and Franz Boas. Coeur d'Alene, Flathead and Okanogan Indians. Fairfield, Washington: Ye Galleon Press, 1985. (Originally published in 1930 as part of the Forty-Fifth Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology.)

Particular owl

I am French, so, fluent in French, and never heard or read the word "alêne" for an owl (chouette, hibou, etc)

So what is this particular owl ? Is it a French Canadian word ? 2A02:8429:D43D:C101:B8B3:9406:3571:EA34 (talk) 19:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]