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Helpfull links to facts and artefacts

I would like to post a link and reference here, regarding the name of Kubrat and artefacts and images proving it. His name has been deciphered in 1984 by the German archaeologist Joachim Werner. I found this link as proof, page 99-100.^[1] Kardaras, edited by Florin Curta and Dushan Zupka.Please administrator to help is the source reliable?
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Link to an image of his rings with monograms - 2019 Newspaper′s name translated as ″What we don′t know for the treasure of Chan Kubrat?″^[2]

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Feel free to add other links which you can find helpfull for improving the article and discuss. Please stick to facts and respect the others! Dahlia La Mar (talk) 13:08, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can't use the images in the Bulgarian article or Kardaras 2018 for that matter because they are copyrighted. You are welcome to add information in your own words and cite the sources. I can't soeak to the reliability of the Bulgarian language article, but Kardaras 2018 looks fine. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 20:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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qobrat "to gather"?

I never heard of this word. Where else is this attested? Does it exist in OT at all? Gengiev (talk) 12:23, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Origins

According to the Oxford Dictionary of Late Antiquity, edited by Oliver Nicholson, published by the Oxford University Press in 2018, ISBN-13:9780198662778: The Bulgars were a Turkic tribal union of the Pontic steppes that gave rise to two important states: Danubian-Balkan Bulgaria (First Bulgarian Empire, 681–1018) and Volga Bulgaria (early 10th century–1241). They derived from Oghuric-Turkic tribes, driven westward from Mongolia and south Siberia to the Pontic steppes in successive waves by turmoil associated with the Xiongnu (late 3rd cent. - mid - 2nd cent. AD) and subsequently by warfare between the Rouran / * Avar (c.402-552) and northern Wei (386-534). Check on p. 271, please. Since such an authoritative source strongly supports this thesis, I do not see why this should be covered up. Jingiby (talk) 17:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Taken from the article here.
Bulgarian historians believe that the ancient Bulgarians spoke a language that is from a different group compared to today's Bulgarian. Some researchers attribute the speech of our ancestors to the Turkic languages, and others to the Iranian ones. None of the two groups of specialists explain the mystery: Why is there not a single Turkic or Iranian word in the entire Old Bulgarian equestrian terminology?

Neither кон - horse nor кобила, жребец, седло, юзда, стреме, лък, тулъ (колчан), стрела, тетива, острие, яздя, ездач - mare, stallion, saddle, bridle, stirrup, bow, quiver, arrow, string, blade, ride, rider, etc. do not belong to the Turkic or Iranian linguistic wealth. On the other hand, in the Thracian onomastics we find Kone, Kobilatus, tula-, Uzdika, Asdul, Ezdikaya, etc., but this apparently does not affect anyone. It is as if there is a taboo that any connection between the old Bulgarians and the local Balkan population should be avoided. Even if we did not have the Thracian words indicating that the Bulgarian equestrian terminology is of Balkan origin, the scholars were well aware of what a serious problem the complete lack of Iranian or Turkic terms was, and of course this was not shared either with the students or with the general public . --73.211.25.167 Kansas Bear (talk) 21:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1IN1DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA99&lpg=PA99&dq=joachim+werner+deciphering+ring+of+kubrat&source=bl&ots=JrgE00gJLi&sig=ACfU3U0fEo1ZYktGyTl-kA0BrJ9uc68ovQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2y5L3uMXrAhUUQEEAHbB7AzoQ6AEwBHoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=joachim%20werner%20deciphering%20ring%20of%20kubrat&f=false

[2] ttps://www.24chasa.bg/ojivlenie/article/7482479

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